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Post by informed on Sept 25, 2006 16:26:03 GMT -5
About a month ago a parakeet was taken from the Rancho Cucamonga Shelter by a rescuer. We were appalled at the condition of this small bird. When questions were asked of the Rancho staff, several excuses were given as to why this bird looked this way, none of them fit. Rancho is supposed to take animals to the vet now and this bird didn't see a vet. The parakeet was taken immediately to an avian vet after being taken out of the Rancho shelter. The vet was very upset to see the condition of the bird and he stated that the Rancho shelter had to watch this bird wasting away before them. As it turns out the bird was stressed which is common for birds yet the Rancho staff swore that was not the case. They made no attempts to get the bird out to rescue and it languished there for 2 weeks. How horrible can a shelter be that can watch this happening and not take this poor bird to the vet or give it to a rescuer? Not even to mention that this shelter is horribly overcrowded. They normally handle about 50 dogs and cats at one time. The most cats they have ever had was 140. Today they have over 100 dogs and almost 300 cats. They don't have enough space and dogs are sitting in portable kennels in the hallways. This shelter needs to be closed.
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Post by jadednslo on Dec 20, 2006 12:23:00 GMT -5
The area, like the rest of California, needs STRICT LAWS on breeding AND selling of pets by ANYone or ANY Pet store. SPAY & Neutering Needs to be MANDATORY, and very strict fines needs to be in place for NON Compliance. THE Shelter did not CREATE the 100 dogs or 300 cats, they are merely trying to deal with it.
TIME for a Change in LEGISLATION, TIME FOR A CHANGE IN BREEDERS AND SELLING, IMPORTING AND EXPORTING OF ANIMALS.
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Post by One who knows on Feb 21, 2007 12:33:41 GMT -5
In a recent Daily Bulletin article the new director at Rancho stated that they only euthanized 730 animals since the city took over. Well, that conflicts with the signed report, the Annual Report of Local Rabies Control Activities which says they euthanized 1201 animals. Wonder where that other 500 went to?? Rancho had an 86% return to owner/adoption rate on dogs prior to "no kill", now it has fallen to 70%. Also the Rancho shelter had an outbreak of ringworm which indicates poor shelter practices. One volunteer told me that the staff is so dedicated that they aren't taking breaks or lunches to help the animals. I call that overcrowding myself and not a good thing. I have seen dogs on the web site for months only to end up euthanized. Ever heard of kennel stress?? Rancho is not taking owner turnins and those animals are ending up being dumped. One person complained at a city council meeting about finding dead animals in the kennels probably from fighting or the shelter's failure to see problems on intake. Yea, let's go "no kill". Might as well say let's increase the animals suffering in the shelter, same thing.
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Post by One Who Knows on Nov 30, 2007 11:41:37 GMT -5
A recent Daily Bulletin article has the director at Rancho proclaiming they are not "no Kill". Seems that their highly paid consultant has been a bust with his "recommendations". In fact, following the book of "no kill" which states let them die in the kennels and it doesn't reflect in the euthanasia numbers, Rancho has had a 600% increase in the died in kennel numbers. Same as the "no kill" game in LA. And look at Philly who does not have to tell the truth because it is a non profit, where the conditions are horrid with overcrowding and disease. Rancho had an 86% return to owner/adoption rate prior to the hiring of the "guru of no kill". IS ANYONE LISTENING TO THIS, NO KILL AS PRESENTED DOES NOT WORK IN OPEN DOOR SHELTERS!!!! It is creating more suffering than is necessary and it has to be stopped.
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Post by One Who Knows on Dec 13, 2007 22:58:06 GMT -5
I agree with mandatory spay/neuter but the "guru" of "no kill" does not. In fact, a book written by the "guru" (I can't mention his name because he has threatened twice to sue me for speaking the truth about him) is being used by the opposition to AB1634 (proposed law in CA for mandatory spay/neuter). This "guru" does not condone new laws regarding pets, he is against household limits (the hoarders love him) and would not support the ordinance regarding breeding in Long Beach awhile back. He was the paid consultant for the Rancho Cucamonga shelter. Now they have learned that his program doesn't work and are trying to run damage control. He claims it is their fault and they aren't following his program. Just thought you would want to know.
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Post by dd34 on Jan 4, 2008 22:33:05 GMT -5
You need to check your information before you start complaining about something you don't know anything about. First of all, birds don't stay in the Rancho shelter for more than a few days, or at most a week. Secondly, you evidently don't know much about shelters because we get animals in daily that are in deplorable conditions. That bird and many others like it came into the shelter in a much worse condtion than it left. AND of course the poor thing was stressed - EVERY animal is stressed in ANY shelter!!!!!!! Have you ever even stepped foot in a shelter? ? You would know that if you had. How would you like to live in a cage or a kennel EVERY DAY and have to deal with all the loud barking? ? Go visit a couple of the city/county shelters and then come over and see Rancho. You'll see that we are one of the best shelters around. I'm not saying we are the best, we all have areas where we could improve, but we are night and day different from most of the municiple shelters. Your posting affects people and what they think. Be careful of what you say and do a little research so that you at least sound like you know what your talking about. Sorry to be so mean, but people like you really piss me off.
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Post by love2traindogs on Jan 6, 2008 21:22:06 GMT -5
Hello everyone! I'm very excited to have found this site! I was just reading everyone's postings on the RC Shelter & I was wondering where everyone is getting their info? Are you all just hearing these things about the shelter word of mouth, or are these things you have experienced over a period of time personally? I think this forum is important and powerful and should not be used to vent or spread something you heard. This is how it seems to be used at the moment. Let's be involved, well educated on the subject, and ensure our postings are 100% true before submitting them. The animal care field is a very passionate one, and instead of helping the cause we may be hurting it with postings full of "facts" we heard from someone else or emotional responses. I happen to know that a lot of the "facts" stated in this discussion thread are incorrect. Just my two cents - thanks for reading.
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Post by Wall Flower on Jan 8, 2008 19:16:57 GMT -5
to: love2train. This is not a forum that is being used for the good of the animals.Some of these people who think they know so much,don't know squat.They are not employees or volunteers. Their supposed facts are NOT facts.They are second hand stories.There are so many inconsistancies on some of the subjects that they think they know so much about that it makes me laugh. I can understans that every one is doing every thing possible to make the lives of the animals better.Why don't they go out there and focus on positive progress.Look into seriously raising your own funds and opening your own rescue.
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Post by one Who Knows on Jan 8, 2008 19:18:50 GMT -5
In response to the "Guest", this bird was in the shelter and the paperwork shows that for almost two weeks without any medical attention or at least the shelter could not provide any under public record. You need to get your info straight. And the person who picked the bird up is an approved rescuer with the shelter and he was upset that he had not been called. Anyone who knows birds knows what stress does to them and it is a killer for them in a short while, unlike dogs and cats. And I disagree with you that Rancho is a good shelter, IT WAS A GOOD SHELTER, but no longer is, it is nothing more than a warehouse. Your died in kennel rate has increased and you made the point with your posting. You actually said that the animals leave in worst shape than they came in!! My point exactly. Rancho is turning away owner turn-ins and where do these animals end up?? Sheltering animals is one thing, caring what happens to them is quite another and Rancho DOES NOT CARE!!!!
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Post by Wall Flower on Jan 8, 2008 20:17:17 GMT -5
Supposed "one who knows" You need to go back and read dd34 correctly. She said"That bird and others like it, CAME INTO THE SHELTER IN MUCH WORSE CONDITION THAN IT LEFT IN". Quit trying to make is sound like what you want it to say.
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Post by one Who Knows on Jan 10, 2008 18:47:55 GMT -5
In the case of the parakeet, the pictures upon impound and the pictures upon removal tell the tale quite well. The vet who treated the bird on the same day it was removed from the shelter was appalled that nothing had been done to help this poor bird. And the staff lied about until public records were requested on it and they could not be produced. By the way, it would be appropriate that you ask how the bird is doing now. That's always my first thoughts. The bird recovered quite well and is living with a retired vet tech. And it was determined by the vet it was stress related. Birds need to be gotten out of the shelters as soon as possible but Rancho failed to call any rescues about this one. This isn't all the complaints about Rancho just one I was personally involved with. I have been taking birds from the local shelters for years and I wasn't called and neither were any of my rescue friends. We keep better tabs on Rancho now as a result, we don't trust them.
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Post by its a no brainer on Aug 27, 2008 22:39:36 GMT -5
If you want to know about the bird, call the shelter and ask one of the ladies in the front. MY guess is that you are all wrong,and just need to blame the ills of society on the very people who are charged with caring for the animals which are dumped upon them. I work there, i know!!! I could tell you many stories most are very sad, some are heart warminag are re-affirming. Just call and ask. All of you are so quick to judge. Did any of you stop to realize the shelter is the way it is because of the mangagement. There are many staff members who are still there because they care, unlike those who are there for a title and a check
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Post by its a no brainer on Aug 27, 2008 22:47:02 GMT -5
What most of you dont realize is that animals are brought to us in many conditions. MOst are scared, sick or half dead before they get there. So stop pointing your frincken fingers. It is society who walks away from their pets, dumps them on shelter workers and then complains that their asses were not kissed when dumping their own dogs on us to care for. Yes it is our job, and I am so tired of coming to work everyday and smiling while i tell you i understand. You people who stand there judging those of us who abandon your pets on an hourly basis, are why I have a job. YOu all suck..........................If you want changes put on your big girl panties and go stand in front of City Council and make them aware of any conditions you do not like. Stop pregnant doging and do something about it. My guess is that you all dont have the courage to step to the plate and demand changes!!!!
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Post by its a no brainer on Aug 27, 2008 22:49:48 GMT -5
At the time of this the City had only taken over four months prior. My guess is that you were perfect after 4 short months. The public really sucks. And you are why shelter workers are stressed. Step to the plate stand your ground, and go fricken make a difference.
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Post by One Who Knows on Sept 11, 2008 21:18:10 GMT -5
In response, I spent 3-4 years in front of the Rancho City Council trying to convince them that to declare the shelter as "no kill" would result in higher owner and "public" surrenders. I served my time going to their Ad Hoc meetings trying to do the best for the animals. Not my fault they fell for something that looks good on paper but doesn't work in reality. Your posts are confirming this. Staff is burned out, volunteers are burned out, and why? Because you can't adopt your way out, the influx has to stop. And Rancho has chosen to make people like yourself miserable trying to help by putting their money into adoptions rather than spay/neuter, enforcement, and new ordinances. I'm with you, honey, but you just don't know it. You're right, it is a no brainer.
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